Can we all agree that True Parents are NOT one?
- stephan winter
- May 18
- 11 min read
May 12-14, 2026
Executive Summary
This email thread centers on a major theological and organizational divide within the Unification Movement: whether Sun Myung Moon and Hak Ja Han remain spiritually and providentially “one” after Moon’s death.
The discussion exposes two primary camps:
One side argues that Hak Ja Han’s recent teachings, leadership direction, and “Only Begotten Daughter” (OBD) theology represent a departure from Sun Myung Moon’s original teachings. Participants in this camp see doctrinal revisionism, institutional corruption, and personality-centered leadership as evidence that the movement has lost its original foundation.
The other side argues that “oneness” should be understood relationally rather than ideologically. They maintain that True Parents remained united through love, sacrifice, shared mission, and lifelong partnership despite disagreements, and reject the idea that theological divergence invalidates their unity.
Beyond theology, the thread reveals widespread concern over:
institutional decline,
leadership failures,
legal and financial scandals,
loss of trust among second-generation members,
youth disengagement,
and the future viability of the movement itself.
Several contributors argue that the movement requires a complete bottom-up rebuilding process focused on transparency, ethical reform, practical community-building, and restoring meaning for younger generations.
Despite deep disagreements, many participants converge on one point: the current state of the movement is unsustainable, and renewal will require honesty, accountability, and a new vision beyond factional conflict.
Jim Stephens
Good evening all,
It hit me today after weeks of back and forth, that maybe we have something in common after all.
Sun Myung Moon and Hak Ja Han ARE NOT ONE.
The idea that they are one has stood the test of time about as well as the COVID "vaccine" being "safe and effective."
Those who disagree with the OBD theology should agree easily that TP are not one.
Those who maintain the OBD theology may insist True Parents are one, but they have to rely on declarations of faith in Hak Ja Han after Father ascended or obscure quotes (IMO) from Father that no one ever noticed before. In essence they have to assert that Father failed because he never told us the "real truth."
The ramifications are huge on a personal level. I went through a 9 month struggle to face this truth back in 2015. I loved Hak Ja Han as my mother.
The ramifications for our movement and the world are huge as well.
I fear we might be headed for another 40 year wilderness course.
But, "hope springs eternal."
Jim
Tyler Hendricks
Jim,
I believe that Sun Myung Moon and Hak Ja Han are ONE.
They are a man and woman blessed by Heavenly Parent in marriage and working together for fifty-two years as the first True Parents on the level of family, society, nation, world and cosmos for the providence leading to peace, freedom, unity and happiness, and the surviving wife is continuing True Parents' work representing their couple with her husband in spirit world.
Tyler Hendricks
Mark Bramwell
To be sure that someone is "one" with someone who has passed away, that living partner's words and actions would need to harmonize with the words and actions of the one who has passed away.
In the case of Mother Hak Ja Han and ascended partner Father Sun Myung Moon, that is obviously not the case.
We can believe that Sun Myung Moon has "repented of his mistakes and submitted to his wife's version of things", but that is a mere belief or matter of faith that cannot be substantiated.
So, it is correct that Tyler says "I believe", just as we can believe in anything, like physical resurrection, virgin birth, and so on, even when reality makes it look highly unlikely.
Mark
PS: I realize this discussion does not interest everyone in our group and am happy to inform you that Stephan is developing a new communication format, so that you can choose to receive only messages on topics that interest you. Coming soon. Thanks.
Tyler Hendricks
I humbly submit that Hak Ja Han's words and actions do harmonize with those of Sun Myung Moon.
Tyler
John Redmond
This is a necessary conversation.
We are all somewhere in the 'Grief Cycle'. Our high ideals, trust and hopes have been damaged by the real challenges of human nature, miscommunication fear and prejudice.
My business friends sometimes say: 'this would be a great business if it weren't for the people.'
However. If you back far enough away from the chaos, God has to be happy with the seeds sowed by the Unification Family.
If the whole movement gets shut down by governments, the Principle still exists and there are thousands of blessed children in the world, with the equivalent merit to Father, Mother or Jesus.
Even if our whole First generation is to 'perish in the desert' because we are too stubborn to hear God, the providence is in a better place than if we had never existed.
Having said that, we have a lot more to work with.
How do we pick up the pieces of a shattered movement and rebuild?
The real measure of our faith is not what we believe in, it is how we act when things are difficult.
What can be done to salvage the hearts of the 2nd gens, who love us, but can't trust us?
If we assume we are rebuilding the movement starting at the bottom, what does that look like, what is most important, how do we do that?
Best regards,John
Andrew Wilson
Jim,
No, I don't agree.
And as a member of the mainstream FFWPU, I certainly don't believe that "Father failed because he never told us the real truth".
God's ideal is based on love, which is stronger than the Principle. And love allows for people to have different truths in their lives.
And what does it mean to be "one" anyway?
In my view, SMM and HJH are one in love for each other, one in having passed through the fire together, one in devoting themselves 100 percent to God's Will, one in being the progenitors of the Blessing that we benefit from, and one in having failed many times, but picked themselves up and kept going.
Like any couple, they have disagreements on issues, but those disagreements don't have to be seen as reflecting on their love for each other and for God.
The criterion of "oneness" in terms of truth is not how marriages work.
A family where the wife is judged by her husband for being disunited with him because she doesn't agree with all his pronouncements reflects badly on the husband, making him nothing but an abusive and domineering bastard.
Usually, in marriages where there is quiet agreement on the surface, a boiling cauldron of repressed emotions burns under the surface, leading to divorce in a few years.
We see it everywhere in marriages.
But True Parents stayed together, meaning that they had mechanisms within their relationship to work out their disagreements, time and time again.
I believe that Father deeply loves Mother. He respects her journey. She's still on that journey, as is Father.
And another thing: In the four-position foundation, we would expect that there would be good communication and honest sharing between all the positions: God, husband, wife and children.
That includes good and honest communication between the sons and daughters of the second generation and their parents.
But can we say that there's been honest 2-way communication between Father and Hyung Jin Nim? Or between Father and Hyun Jin Nim? Kook Jin Nim? Or the so-called true children with each other?
All I see is rivalries, backstabbing and secrets.
So who is "one"?
In your proposition, I only see the pot calling the kettle black.
The four-position foundation set up "positions" as a marker in the providence.
But the realization of oneness? That depends on the quality of communication, emotion, honesty, etc. between the human beings in those positions.
You are expecting too much if you think that with all the history that has passed until now, with all its tangled threads, it would be easy or automatic for the True Family to have some kind of fairytale oneness.
But I, for one, am willing to honor the process that is still going on, and live in the hope that these disputes will, over time, resolve themselves.
Written in hope,Andrew
Jim Stephens
Brothers Tyler and Andrew,
Thanks for clarifying your beliefs.
I don't see it, externally speaking.
Jim
Terry Sweeney
Yes, every picture or photo paints a thousand words in the eye of the beholder.
Or to those who don’t want to break the habit of a lifetime into thinking things that might well not actually be true.
We either identify a malaise and think it’s solvable or else bury our head in the sand and pretend that all is sweetness and light in the UM world.
I remember first hearing that Rev Myeongdae Kim video on YT and thinking surely these clerics aren’t this careless with their words.
There was another Kim a few months earlier saying something similar about Father’s ‘tail’ and all that.
So, is God testing our faith or telling us he has turned his back on the whole charade that is called the UM machine?
My kind of God is for the latter, whereas the UM seems no more than a self-perpetuating machine designed to keep some folks in well-paying jobs and lots of pointless meetings around the world.
With maybe some kickbacks thrown in for good measure, where opportunities arise in such an opaque organisation.
There is also the need to preserve one’s legacy as one of the great luminaries to factor in.
Who is brave enough to be cast out for speaking truth to power or in exercising a modicum of what their conscience might be telling them?
Mostly, we’ll go to our graves - not asking whether we backed the right horse but why we could not have acted more bravely in challenging the marketing driven BS we got fed.
None of these horses interest me anymore because they all seem glorified sandcastles facing an incoming tide of both God and Caesar’s reckoning.
My only interest now is a complete purge of the UM from top to bottom.
And then rebuild so that the next generation have something to work with.
It really is a weird one to see photos like these of Mother setting out her stall as THE central figure of the providence.
Those who see this as just UM theology following trends in 21st Century thinking are very much missing the point.
After all, Father made Mother one equal half of True Parents - surely a spiritual title that trumps all other titles?
Why go backwards into ‘only begotten’ Christian territory when she was already a True Daughter of God?
Makes no sense but then the UM machine seems to specialise in throwing up various smoke and mirrors to keep us confused and impotent.
Meanwhile, I found this a fairly powerful recent piece by Stephan Winter and recommend subscribing to his numerous Substack essays on the UM.
This essay in particular is stinging on Mother’s trial and detention and what appear to be dark forces behind the scenes ‘plotting’ against her.
Terry
PS. Speaking of bravery, I notice about 60 names on this email list but only about a dozen willing to stick their head above the parapet and write something here.
I find that quite telling which gives me little hope folks actually want to find a way out of this current mess.
After all, Father often reminded us not to be a bystander or onlooker, but to be an active participant in moving the providence forward.
Steve Salowsky
Hi Terry,
Great writing!
"glorified sandcastles facing an incoming tide"
Nicely written, very poetic.
You also write:
"My only interest now is a complete purge of the UM from top to bottom"
That's being done on its own, look at all the changes in the last 2 years!
I call it the loss of Heaven's Fortune.
Asian philosophies talk about how the king who is righteous will have full support of Heaven and receive Heaven's Fortune.
With all of the corruption, lying, stealing, etc... it would seem as if Heaven's Fortune has been lost, but it can be regained!
Just need to do the right things.
"And then rebuild so that the next generation have something to work with."
We all need to do projects.
Take action, make a move, then others will work together with us.
After I built kingdomofheavenmusic.com last year, although nobody wanted to help in its building, AFTER it was built, a flood of the great musicians of the UC and UM hopped aboard.
It kinda is the archive of UC music now.
Many members go there just to play UC music while in their houses and doing chores.
Now I've been working on what I view as one of the most important teachings of Father: Absolute Sex Education.
I've started the site giftedgrowing.org.
Hoping to get it into local churches with 2nd Gen as teachers, then get the community to support it (PTA) then get it into public schools - Character Education with Abstinence Education.
The more that members take action and help to build the Kingdom of Heaven on Earth, the more Heaven's Fortune will shine on them.
"After all, Father made Mother one equal half of True Parents"
My 87 year old father says the exact same thing.
"Why go backwards into ‘only begotten’ Christian territory when she was already a True Daughter of God?"
YES! True Mother is above it all.
Why go back to daughter status and promote that?
Doesn't make sense... except for self-promotion.
"Makes no sense but then the UM machine seems to specialise in throwing up various smoke and mirrors to keep us confused and impotent."
This is a Korean thing, and overall an Asian one.
Look at the corrupt politicians, how many Presidents were incarcerated, businesses are similar.
That's why when H1 and Kook Jin went in to clean up the business, I was extremely supportive, but it looks like that was meant to just consolidate and do the same smoke and mirrors, then the money grab!
"60 names on this email list but only about a dozen willing to stick their head above the parapet and write something here."
Same thing in the local churches I have witnessed and heard from; they don't want to rock the boat and get called out for it - worse, get blacklisted for it!
They have built communities, friendships, marriages, etc..., but if they want to see change, we all need to step up to bat.
As always, thanks for your insightful writings.
Terry Sweeney
Yes, you’re right, Steve – the purge has been done on its own.
From outside regulatory bodies rather than from within.
Over a number of years, some of us have been banging the drum for the UM to get its house in order, but to little avail.
Rendering unto Caesar is not about paying the right taxes to local government etc.
It is about scrupulously following the law of the land so that ‘Satan’ has no base to invade.
When you have a clean and welcoming house to invite people to visit then they’ll likely come back.
The UM hierarchy have chosen to ignore the warnings of ‘Caesar’ and now it’s come to bite hard, not just in Japan but also likely soon in Korea.
The UM machine refused to reform itself and now I hear that Japanese members are welcoming this ‘back to basics’ return to what energised us all in the first place all those years ago.
They now have a chance to rise like a phoenix from the ashes and rebuild something more meaningful.
The same is likely to happen with Korea in the near future.
Just such a shame that so many hundreds of millions of US$ worth of property assets will be lost in the process.
As well as the reputational damage.
The Koreans will rebuild their movement in time but now is the time for the West (US and Europe) to cut its apron strings and set out a new blueprint for a UM revival.
Hopefully, from the bottom up.
Thanks,Terry
John Redmond
The trouble with 'I told you so's..'
They feel good, and they are often partly accurate, but they don't fix the root problem.
The Divine Principle would hold that no one is omniscient.
None of our central figures or Captains, none of the True Family and not Mother or Father.
All of us can list a few bonehead decisions Father made.
Raging at the Koreans, while partly deserved, obscures our own role in squabbling over the broken pieces while our children sneak out the back door.
I don't see how God wins by having the movement collapse while we settle old resentments.
What is the 'go forward' plan that gives everyone, H1, H2, Hsa, and the rest of us, a path to providential success?
Does anyone in the USA or Europe have the spiritual gravitas to mediate between all the parties?
What will it take to find and support those people?
Thoughts?
John R
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